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動態
本期仁醫醫療特別邀請到國室是德國最大的神經外科診所之一。Prof. Veit Rohde和(he)他(ta)的(de)團(tuan)隊(dui)憑(ping)借(jie)著(zhe)高(gao)度(du)專(zhuan)業(ye)化(hua)的(de)技(ji)術(shu)，最(zui)先(xian)進(jin)的(de)設(she)備(bei)和(he)最(zui)好(hao)的(de)護(hu)理(li)，專(zhuan)注(zhu)於(yu)功(gong)能(neng)維(wei)持(chi)和(he)微(wei)創(chuang)治(zhi)療(liao)原(yuan)則(ze)的(de)持(chi)續(xu)應(ying)用(yong)，得(de)以(yi)治(zhi)療(liao)整(zheng)個(ge)神(shen)經(jing)外(wai)科(ke)領(ling)域(yu)相(xiang)關(guan)疾(ji)病(bing)。
哥廷根大學醫療中心神經外科
下薩克森州最高水平的跨學科治療中心
哥廷根大學醫學中心的神經外科診所是德國最大的神經外科診所之一。每年有5000例門診病人和2000例住院病人接受約3000例手術治療。為了給每個患者提供最好的護理，尤其是腫瘤疾病（癌症）患者，哥廷根大學神經外科與其他學科共建了跨學科的大學綜合癌症中心（G-CCC）。
由於擁有大量臨床病例的高水平專業知識，多年的臨床經驗和最佳的醫療效果，Prof. Veit Rohde領導的哥廷根大學神經外科診所是德國神經外科學會在血管疾病尤其是腦出血領域的認證中心。
Prof. Veit Rohde領導的科hde和他的團隊與康複中心緊密合作，以確保即使在術後也可以進行最佳治療。
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采訪錄
1. 您是何時決定從醫的呢？又為什麼專攻神經外科呢？
Why did you decide to pursue a career in medicine and why, in particular, did you decide to specialize in neurosurgery?
zhewentihennanhuida，woshanggaozhongdeshihoujiuduishengwuhenganxingqu，dandangshiduiyushifoucongyibingmeiyoutebiemingquedeguihua。zaideguo，gaozhongchengjifeichanghaodedingjianxueshengcaihuibeiyixueyuanluqu，wochengjitebiehao，yushishunqizirandixuanzeleyixueyuan，bingbushichuyuzijideguihua。wojiuzheyangkaishixueyile，henkuaiwoyishidaozheshiyigeshifenzhengquedexuanze，woganjiaoxueyihenyouqu。zhiyuxuanzeshenjingwaike，yebushitiqianmingqueguihuade。dangshizhiyoulianggewaikelingyu，buxuyaoxianzaipuwaikepeixunhouzaijinxingzhuankepeixun，najiushixinwaikeheshenjingwaike。wojiuzheyangxuanzeleshenjingwaike，houlaihaidangshanglezhuren。
That's a very difficult question. During my school time, I was highly interested in biology, but there was no clear plan to study medicine. As you know, if you have very good grades in Germany during school, you are allowed to study medicine and I had very good grades. Therefore, it was sort of preformed but it was not a very clear decision by myself. So I studied medicine and I soon recognized that this was a very good decision - It was very good and very interesting for me. But, again, the step to neurosurgery was also not so well structured or well planned before. During that time, there had been only two surgical disciplines in which it was not necessary to make general surgery in addition, and this had been cardiac surgery and neurosurgery. That's the reason why I ended up as a Chairman in neurosurgery.
2. 您職業生涯中是否有對您來說很重要的導師，他們教會您什麼，是如何啟發您的呢？
Who have been your greatest influences? What have they taught you and how have they inspired you?
我認為對我職業生涯影響最大的人是兩位神經外科醫生，他們給我很大幫助。他們是Prof. Hassler 和 Prof. Gilsbach。第(di)一(yi)位(wei)是(shi)我(wo)在(zai)圖(tu)賓(bin)根(gen)大(da)學(xue)工(gong)作(zuo)時(shi)的(de)導(dao)師(shi)，圖(tu)賓(bin)根(gen)是(shi)我(wo)職(zhi)業(ye)生(sheng)涯(ya)開(kai)始(shi)的(de)地(di)方(fang)，他(ta)讓(rang)我(wo)得(de)到(dao)了(le)快(kuai)速(su)的(de)成(cheng)長(chang)，他(ta)是(shi)我(wo)在(zai)神(shen)經(jing)外(wai)科(ke)領(ling)域(yu)的(de)手(shou)術(shu)和(he)科(ke)研(yan)工(gong)作(zuo)的(de)領(ling)路(lu)人(ren)。
第二位是Prof. Gilsbach，wogentazaiyachengongyedaxuegongzuoleshiyinian，tajiaohuileworuhezaishenjingwaikequdechenggong。wocongtamenshenshangxuedaozuizhongyaodeyidianshi，yaoxiangchengweiyiminghaodeshenjingwaikeyisheng，nibixuyoufeichangqiangdejilvxing。zaizuoshoushushi，nibixuduizijizuodesuoyoucaozuoyouqingxiderenzhi。tamenduishenjingwaikedeshenkejianjiehechaoqiansiweiduiwoyingxiangfeichangda。
I would say my greatest influence had been made by two neurosurgeons which had helped me during my career.
It had been Prof. Hassler and Prof. Gilsbach. The first one was my senior in Tübingen. When I've started my career there, he pushed me a lot, he showed me the first operations and he also gave me the first insights into scientific work.
The other, as I said, was Prof. Gilsbach. I was with him eleven years in Aachen and I would say that he taught me everything which was necessary for a successful career in neurosurgery.
What they especially showed me is that you must have a very strong discipline if you like to be a good neurosurgeon and you must have a very clear mind about what to do when you're operating. They gave me insight and their thinking and thereby influenced me a lot.
3. 您領導哥廷根大學醫療中心神經外科已經快二十年了，這期間您遇到最大的挑戰是什麼？接下來幾年的計劃是什麼？
You have been leading the Clinic for Neurosurgery at UMG for around twenty years. What was the biggest challenge during the last two decades? And as the Chief, what’s you plan for the following years?
qishimeiyoutebiejutidemoujianshi，danshiyouyigetiaozhanzaiguoqudeershinianzhongruyingsuixing，najiushiyusuanshangdexianzhi。zuoweishenwaiyisheng，womenzongxiangzaishoushuzhongtouruzuixindejishu，danyiyuandexingzhengbumenquexiwangbachengbenkongzhideyuediyuehao。zheshideshuangfangxingchengleduiliguanxi， 有you時shi候hou很hen難nan處chu理li，對dui我wo們men來lai說shuo的de確que是shi個ge挑tiao戰zhan。尤you其qi是shi現xian在zai科ke技ji發fa展zhan得de很hen快kuai，我wo們men想xiang要yao投tou入ru新xin的de設she備bei等deng等deng，我wo們men會hui跟gen行xing政zheng部bu門men詳xiang細xi說shuo明ming，我wo們men所suo做zuo的de一yi切qie都dou是shi以yi病bing人ren為wei中zhong心xin，但dan有you時shi他ta們men並bing不bu是shi這zhe樣yang考kao慮lv的de。
至於接下來幾年的計劃，首先是處理好剛才提到的這個問題。其次，現在距離我退休大概還有8年，我們是全德國最大的神經外科之一，設備精良、醫護團隊訓練有素，我希望把科室很好地交接給下一任主任，這就是我接下來幾年的計劃。
I think there was no specific challenge, but it was an ongoing challenge during the whole time. This is that we have restrictions by the economy. We are, always dealing, as a neurosurgeon, with the aim of improving everything to have the latest technology to offer the newest operations, and on the other hand, you have the administration, who tries to to keep the budget low. This is, I would say, a tension, between those two points, which sometimes are quite hard to handle and which sometimes presented to challenge. Especially if the technology is moving very fast and you need to have a new machine or something else, and then you're discussing with the administration what's for and just to make clear that you're doing everything for the patient, which is not always seen in the same way by the administration.
(When it comes to my plan for the following years), I think it’s to be successful in this challenge, I just have mentioned. Second, I have to work, I think, eight years more, and I would have to hand over this department as one of the biggest in Germany with very good equipment and with highly trained neurosurgeons. This is my vision for the next upcoming years.
4. 作為大學教授、醫生、管理人員，您如何平衡行政、臨床、科研、教學工作及個人生活？以及盡管有這麼多其他工作，如何將重心始終保持在病人身上？
As a professor, a surgeon, a clinic director, how do you balance your personal life, administration, clinical practice, research activities and lecturing? How does the focus remain on the patients despite every other roles?
worichanggongzuozhongxinshilinchuanggongzuo，fanshiyibingrenweichufadian，qicishijilinianqingdeshenwaiyishengtoushenkeyan。woyijingguoleyaoqinzidaoshiyanshizuokeyandenianji，woxianzaizhuyaoshigeinianqingyishengtigongxiangfa，tichuyanjiujiashe，rangtamenfuzhushijian。zhiyuxingzhenggongzuo，woyijingjinkenengbatamenfendangeiqitatuanduichengyuan。zheyangyilai，wodegongzuoshizhongnengyibingrenweizhongxin，zhuiqiubingrenfuzhi。
至(zhi)於(yu)個(ge)人(ren)生(sheng)活(huo)，也(ye)是(shi)我(wo)需(xu)要(yao)努(nu)力(li)平(ping)衡(heng)的(de)，我(wo)很(hen)幸(xing)運(yun)，我(wo)的(de)妻(qi)子(zi)也(ye)是(shi)神(shen)外(wai)醫(yi)生(sheng)，所(suo)以(yi)我(wo)們(men)在(zai)家(jia)的(de)時(shi)候(hou)也(ye)能(neng)討(tao)論(lun)一(yi)些(xie)專(zhuan)業(ye)上(shang)的(de)問(wen)題(ti)，這(zhe)樣(yang)就(jiu)有(you)更(geng)多(duo)休(xiu)閑(xian)的(de)時(shi)間(jian)。
My daily activity is strongly focused on the clinical work, to make almost everything possible for the patients. The other focus is to stimulate research activity of young neurosurgeons. In my position, I do not intend to go to the lab personally, but to create new ideas, to create scientific questions, and gave these questions and ideas to your neurosurgeons which will do the research now. I try to cut down the administrative work by putting on many shoulders in my team. By doing so I have a very strong focus on the patients and the well-being of the patients.
Concerning the personal life, well, it's also obviously a part of what I'm doing. I'm in a good position that my wife is also a neurosurgeon, so we are in a situation where we can discuss some professional issues while sitting at that table at home, which makes it easier sometimes to have more leisure time.
5. 德國脊柱學會在全德範圍內認證了30家一級脊柱中心，哥廷根大學醫療中心是下薩克森州唯一的一家認證中心。這一認證對病人來說意味著什麼？請問您領導的神經外科與Prof. Lehmann領導的骨科與創傷外科在脊柱領域是如何進行多學科合作的？
There are 30 certified Spine Center of Maximum Care by German Spine Society and UMG is the first and only certified center in Lower Saxony. What does this mean to the patients? How is multidisciplinary collaboration organized for spinal diseases between the neurosurgery clinic led by you and the orthopedics and trauma clinic led by Prof. Lehmann?
首shou先xian我wo非fei常chang自zi豪hao，我wo們men能neng成cheng為wei全quan國guo僅jin有you的de三san十shi家jia認ren證zheng中zhong心xin之zhi一yi，同tong時shi是shi下xia薩sa克ke森sen州zhou唯wei一yi一yi家jia。一yi級ji脊ji柱zhu中zhong心xin的de認ren證zheng，要yao求qiu該gai中zhong心xin神shen經jing外wai科ke和he骨gu科ke與yu創chuang傷shang外wai科ke進jin行xing緊jin密mi合he作zuo。這zhe樣yang的de合he作zuo使shi得de病bing人ren能neng接jie受shou更geng好hao更geng全quan麵mian的de照zhao護hu，因yin為wei我wo們men對dui處chu理li複fu雜za的de脊ji柱zhu疾ji病bing非fei常chang有you經jing驗yan，這zhe些xie在zai二er級ji或huo三san級ji脊ji柱zhu中zhong心xin是shi比bi較jiao少shao見jian的de。
在zai我wo們men脊ji柱zhu中zhong心xin，我wo們men和he骨gu科ke與yu創chuang傷shang外wai科ke醫yi生sheng之zhi間jian的de合he作zuo非fei常chang緊jin密mi。對dui於yu患huan有you複fu雜za脊ji柱zhu疾ji病bing患huan者zhe，我wo們men會hui一yi起qi討tao論lun，甚shen至zhi一yi起qi手shou術shu。對dui於yu常chang見jian的de脊ji柱zhu疾ji病bing患huan者zhe，比bi如ru腰yao椎zhui間jian盤pan突tu出chu症zheng或huo簡jian單dan骨gu折zhe，通tong常chang由you神shen經jing外wai科ke或huo骨gu科ke與yu創chuang傷shang外wai科ke進jin行xing手shou術shu，這zhe取qu決jue於yu哪na個ge科ke收shou治zhi病bing人ren入ru院yuan，但dan對dui於yu複fu雜za的de病bing例li，我wo們men都dou會hui合he作zuo，以yi求qiu給gei病bing人ren提ti供gong最zui好hao的de照zhao護hu。
Prof. Lehmann（左）與Prof. Veit Rohde
First of all, I'm very proud that we are one of the thirty centers and that we are the only one in Lower Saxony. To be acknowledged as one of the Spine Centers of Maximum Care, needs that you have a defined collaboration with the trauma surgeons and the orthopedic surgeons. By structuring this collaboration, I think, you offer a better care for the patients because we are able to deal also with the complex spine cases which are not so often seen in other spine centers which are not Spine Centers of Maximum Care.
The collaboration with the trauma and orthopedic surgeons in our hospital is very good. For the patients, as I said, it means that all the complex cases are discussed together and sometimes are operated together. If we're talking about easy spine cases, let's say, a lumbar disc herniation or a non complex fracture, the patient is treated either in neurosurgery or in orthopedic and trauma surgery, depending on through which door the patient enters our hospital, but for the complex cases and that's very important for the complex cases that we are working together, we are discussing together, and we are trying to provide the best care for the patient.
6. 在神經外科領域至今還存在較大的性別差異。德國36所大學醫院中，隻有兩所神經外科由女性主任領導，但其實醫學院中大概70%的醫學生都是女性。您認為德國大學醫院在鼓勵更多女性從事神經外科方麵做得如何？該如何改進？
There is still gender disparity in the field of neurosurgery. In Germany, nearly 70% of medical students are female but only two of 36 university neurosurgical departments are headed by female. How well do you think German university hospitals are doing to encourage more women to pursue a career in neurosurgery, and how could this be improved?
這個問題很難回答，你說得對，確實至今還有較大的性別差異，但是住院醫師，或低年資醫生群體中，性別比已經大概達到了1:1的平衡，所以這是有所改善的。但確實，女性很難得到神經外科主任的職位。
deguodaxuezijinianqianjiuyizhizainulicuchengnvxingdingjishenjingwaikeyishengdeshenqing，danshiwomenrengranmianlinzheyangyigeshishi，jinvxingjinruzuihousanminghouxuanrenmingdandeqingkuanghenshaojian。yinweiyoushidaxuedanxin，ruguonvxingshenjingwaikeyishengzuihoumeiyoudedaozhegezhiwei，takenenghuiqisudaxueyizhengquzhegezhiwei。mouzhongchengdushanglaishuozheshiyizhongkongju。ruguowomennengnulijianshaohuoxiaochuzhezhongkongju，deguodenvxingshenjingwaikezhurenjiuhuiyuelaiyueduo。
That's a difficult question. You're right that there is a gender disparity. But on the level of the residents and also the younger staff members, I would say it's a 50/50 percentage. In this part, it's getting better and better. But you're right, it's still difficult to get one of the top positions in neurosurgery. I think that the German universities, since a few years ago, are doing a lot to facilitate the application of top female neurosurgeons, but we are still facing the fact that it's rarer for a woman to be on a shortlist of the last three applicants because sometimes universities fear that the female neurosurgeon, if she's not in the top position, might sue for getting the position. That's some sort of fear. I think if we are able to reduce the fear or eliminate the fear, the number of female neurosurgeons in top positions in Germany will go up.
7. 您對如何培養年輕醫生有好的建議嗎？您對年輕的神經外科醫生有什麼建議？
Do you have suggestions on how to train the young generation (to the Chinese chiefs)? What advice would you give to the young neurosurgeons?
youshiyigenanti，youqishizhongguohedeguohuoouzhoudetixiqishiyoudianbuyiyang，danshihaishiyougongtongdiande。shouxianworenwei，yiyuanhuokezhurenzaitiaoxuannianqingyishengshi，bixutiaoxuannaxieyiyouzhashikeyanjichudexuesheng。yinweizaizhuyuanyishijieduanbukenengwanquanjiangzhexiekeyanzhishichuanshougeitamen。wodelinianshi，yiyuanyinggaishishijiegouhuadejiaoyuxiangmu，zhegegenxiayigewentidedaanyousuoguanlian。
作(zuo)為(wei)德(de)國(guo)神(shen)經(jing)外(wai)科(ke)學(xue)會(hui)的(de)主(zhu)席(xi)，我(wo)正(zheng)在(zai)製(zhi)定(ding)一(yi)個(ge)適(shi)合(he)大(da)多(duo)數(shu)德(de)國(guo)醫(yi)院(yuan)的(de)結(jie)構(gou)化(hua)教(jiao)育(yu)計(ji)劃(hua)，給(gei)全(quan)德(de)國(guo)的(de)年(nian)輕(qing)醫(yi)生(sheng)提(ti)供(gong)同(tong)質(zhi)化(hua)標(biao)準(zhun)化(hua)的(de)培(pei)訓(xun)。同(tong)時(shi)我(wo)一(yi)直(zhi)鼓(gu)勵(li)住(zhu)院(yuan)醫(yi)生(sheng)參(can)加(jia)培(pei)訓(xun)課(ke)程(cheng)。有(you)歐(ou)洲(zhou)的(de)培(pei)訓(xun)課(ke)程(cheng)，也(ye)有(you)德(de)國(guo)國(guo)內(nei)的(de)培(pei)訓(xun)課(ke)程(cheng)。這(zhe)些(xie)培(pei)訓(xun)課(ke)程(cheng)通(tong)常(chang)是(shi)長(chang)達(da)四(si)年(nian)的(de)結(jie)構(gou)化(hua)項(xiang)目(mu)，這(zhe)四(si)年(nian)間(jian)的(de)培(pei)訓(xun)覆(fu)蓋(gai)神(shen)經(jing)外(wai)科(ke)領(ling)域(yu)所(suo)有(you)的(de)知(zhi)識(shi)。我(wo)們(men)應(ying)該(gai)鼓(gu)勵(li)年(nian)輕(qing)醫(yi)生(sheng)參(can)加(jia)這(zhe)些(xie)課(ke)程(cheng)。
jiexialaiwoxiangjiangxiazhongguoheouzhoudebutongzhichu。zaiouzhou，henduoshoushubunengrangnianqingyishengshangtaicaozuo，yincinianqingyishengshicaodejihuishibugouduode。woqianglietuijiannianqingyishengcanjiazhexiepeixunkecheng，zhexiepeixunkecheng，yijiyixiejiepouxuekechengtigonglezaimoxingshangshicaodejihui。zhexieshiwonengxiangdaodenenggeinianqingyishengtigonggenghaodejiaoyudefangfa。danzuizhongyaodehaishiyaozaigeyiyuantuixingliunianzhijiegouhuazhuyuanyishipeixunjihua。
Again, a difficult question, especially because the situation between in China and in Germany or in Europe are a bit different, but there are some common points. One thing is that the hospitals or the chiefs should pick out the students with a very good theoretical basis, or let's say, the basic scientific background already must be available, because it's not possible to to give this knowledge completely to them during the residency. I'm a strong supporter of a very structured educational program, which should be implemented in a hospital. What I'm doing, this is a bit linked to the next question, as the President of German Society for Neurosurgery is to develop a structured educational program which might fit for most of the German hospitals so that the training is not so different between different hospitals.What I always push is that the residents take part in training courses. There are European training courses. There are also national training courses. It's a structured program always for four years. And during this four years, the whole field of neurosurgery is covered. I think we should support our residents to make this.
Now I'm coming to the difference between China and Europe. In Europe we have the problem that we have not enough operations for the young neurosurgeons and for training the neurosurgeons and therefore I also strongly support every attempt to take part in courses in which you're able to learn things, to get experience by working with models, or courses in anatomy. These are briefly the things how I think we can make the education better, but the most important thing is a very structured program for every hospital for six years of residency.
8. 自2022年起您任德國神經外科學會主席，這對您來說意味著什麼？您任期內的計劃是什麼？您認為此類學會對學科和醫生有何重要意義？
You have been the President of German Society for Neurosurgery since 2022. What does this mean to you? What’s the plan during your term of office? How important do you think the professional societies are to the field of neurosurgery and to the surgeons?
對dui我wo個ge人ren的de意yi義yi，一yi方fang麵mian是shi對dui我wo多duo年nian來lai在zai外wai科ke領ling域yu做zuo出chu的de成cheng就jiu的de認ren可ke，另ling一yi方fang麵mian是shi對dui我wo多duo年nian來lai對dui德de國guo神shen經jing外wai科ke學xue會hui的de支zhi持chi的de認ren可ke。我wo認ren為wei，當dang選xuan學xue會hui主zhu席xi的de兩liang年nian，某mou種zhong程cheng度du來lai說shuo是shi對dui我wo的de獎jiang勵li。剛gang才cai已yi經jing提ti到dao，我wo任ren期qi內nei的de主zhu要yao工gong作zuo，是shi推tui動dong神shen經jing外wai科ke住zhu院yuan醫yi生sheng的de標biao準zhun化hua教jiao育yu培pei訓xun製zhi度du，以yi及ji高gao年nian資zi醫yi生sheng的de標biao準zhun化hua繼ji續xu教jiao育yu培pei訓xun製zhi度du，這zhe是shi我wo任ren期qi內nei工gong作zuo的de重zhong點dian。
zhiyuxuehuideyiyi，worenweixuehuishihenzhongyaode。deguoshenjingwaikexuehuifeichangzhongshikeyangongzuo，yinciworenweixuehuikeyituidongbenlingyuneikeyandejinzhan。chucizhiwai，xuehuihaikeyidaibiaoshenwaiyishengyingduibuduanbianhuadezhengce，daibiaoshenwaiyishengxiangzhengfubiaodawomendexiangfa。qishideguoshenjingwaikexuehuibusuandadexuehui。woxiangxinwomenyudeguowaikexuehuidejinmihezuoduitigaowaikeyishengheshenwaiyishengzhengzhidiweidayoubangzhu。
What does it mean for me? On the one hand, it showed that I've worked successfully in the field of, let's say, human surgery for a longer time and that I supported for a longer time the German Society for Neurosurgery. I think, I was elected as the President for a term for two years as some sort of award for this.
I already mentioned that one of my key work as the President is the improvement of the education of neurosurgeons on the level of residency, but also later to bring it to a higher level. This is very important for me.
Concerning the role of societies, I personally believe that societies are important. The German Society for Neurosurgery is a society which has a very strong focus on support of science and scientific work. And therefore, I think that societies can push research. On the other hand, it also has a role in dealing with changing political situation and trying to make our neurosurgical thinking clear to the politicians. The neurosurgical society is a quite small society. Therefore, I believe that our collaboration with the German Society of Surgeons is especially helpful for our political aims for improving the visibility of surgery and neurosurgery in the political field.
9. 您在國際上知名度很高，至今您最自豪的職業成就是什麼，為什麼？
You enjoy a great international reputation. What is your proudest career achievement to date and why?
haoxiangmeiyoutebiemingquedenajianshi。danmeiciwocanjiaxueshuhuiyi，canjiapeixunkechengshi，nianqingyishenggaosuwo，tamenbeiwosuozuodelinchuanggongzuohuokeyangongzuosuoyingxiang，zhelingwogandaofeichangzihaohekaixin。zhezhengmingduonianlaiwoduinianqingwaikeyishengdezhiyefazhanshiyoubangzhude，napazhiyouyidiandian，woduicigandaozihao。
I think there is no one thing (which I am most proud of). I'm always proud if I'm going to conferences, to train courses, and to meetings, and the young neurosurgeons approach me and are saying to me that they had been influenced by what I've done or what I do in research for. These are the things which I'm happy about. It shows me that over the years, I, let's say, influenced a little bit the careers of the future neurosurgeons. This is the thing which makes me proud.
10. 作為一名醫生，您最享受您工作中的哪一部分？假如您不從醫的話，您會從事什麼行業？
What’s the most fascinating part of your profession as a medical doctor? And what would you have been if you had not been a medical doctor?
我想把這個問題改一下，改為“作為神外醫生，你最享受工作中哪一部分？”因為我不想成為內科醫生，我想做神外醫生。
gongzuozhongwojiaodezuixiangshoudeyouliangdian，diyi，ruguowomenbabenzhigongzuozuohao，womenzhendekeyizhiyubingren，zheshiwomenyushenneiyishengdechabie。chulegebieexingnaobuzhongliuzhiwai，womenkeyigeibingrendeweilaishenghuotigonglianghaodeqiwang。duiwolaishuozheshifeichanglingrenzhemide，womenkeyiweilebingrenzhengqujudadeshengli。suiranyoushihouwomenwufaqudeshengli，danzhejiushiyingbidelingyimianle。
另(ling)一(yi)方(fang)麵(mian)，神(shen)經(jing)外(wai)科(ke)醫(yi)生(sheng)總(zong)能(neng)接(jie)觸(chu)到(dao)最(zui)新(xin)的(de)技(ji)術(shu)，許(xu)多(duo)計(ji)算(suan)機(ji)科(ke)學(xue)技(ji)術(shu)早(zao)就(jiu)已(yi)經(jing)進(jin)入(ru)神(shen)經(jing)外(wai)科(ke)領(ling)域(yu)。我(wo)們(men)總(zong)是(shi)麵(mian)臨(lin)著(zhe)最(zui)新(xin)的(de)技(ji)術(shu)，這(zhe)也(ye)是(shi)非(fei)常(chang)令(ling)人(ren)著(zhe)迷(mi)的(de)。我(wo)們(men)正(zheng)在(zai)接(jie)觸(chu)人(ren)工(gong)智(zhi)能(neng)，我(wo)相(xiang)信(xin)這(zhe)也(ye)會(hui)被(bei)神(shen)經(jing)外(wai)科(ke)領(ling)域(yu)應(ying)用(yong)。一(yi)直(zhi)接(jie)觸(chu)新(xin)想(xiang)法(fa)和(he)新(xin)技(ji)術(shu)能(neng)讓(rang)我(wo)們(men)一(yi)直(zhi)把(ba)握(wo)時(shi)代(dai)的(de)脈(mai)搏(bo)，我(wo)非(fei)常(chang)享(xiang)受(shou)這(zhe)一(yi)點(dian)。
wohaizhendebuzhidaoruguowobuzuoyishengdehuahuixuanzeshenmezhiye。xiajuexincongyiyijingshisanshiduonianqiandeshile，dangshiyeyoukaolvshifouyaoxuedizhixue，danwoyebuqueding（如果不做醫生的話）我是否真的會從事地質學。
I would like to change a bit of the question to what’s the most fascinating part of your profession as a neurosurgeon, I would say. I don't want to be an internal doctor. I would like to be a neurosurgeon. There are two things which are fascinating. One thing is that if we are doing our job very well, we are really able to heal the patient. That’s the difference to the neurologist. We could really provide the patients with good expectation concerning their further life, with the few exceptions of the malignant brain tumors. This is fascinating for me that we could have big victories for sake of the patients, and sometimes we have no victories, but that's the other side of the medal.
The other thing which is fascinating as a neurosurgeon is that we are dealing with the newest technologies, many of the computer science early find the way into neurosurgery. We are always are confronted with the latest technology. That's also very fascinating. We are now exposed to artificial intelligence and I think it also will enter the field of neurosurgery. If you're always exposed to new ideas and new technologies. You're always on the pulse of time, and that's very fascinating for me.
And what I'd done if not having been a medical doctor, I really don't know. This decision of being a medical doctor was made more than thirty years ago. I know that I was thinking about Geology, but I'm not quite sure if I would have done it. I really don't know.
11. 您有什麼興趣愛好？
What are your hobbies during your leisure time?
上shang學xue的de時shi候hou我wo是shi一yi個ge半ban職zhi業ye中zhong長chang跑pao運yun動dong員yuan。我wo現xian在zai還hai保bao持chi著zhe這zhe個ge習xi慣guan，我wo每mei周zhou跑pao步bu兩liang到dao三san次ci，試shi圖tu從cong日ri常chang工gong作zuo中zhong抽chou離li出chu來lai，享xiang受shou新xin鮮xian空kong氣qi和he自zi然ran景jing觀guan。
Well, in former times during studies I've been a, let's say, semi-professional middle and long distance runner.I kept this hobby - I'm running two to three times a week, trying just to inhale good air and the impressions from the nature and to get rid of the daily work.
